Help identify bird in northcliff area

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3 years 2 months ago #86793 by billbrooks
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I've been wondering what type of swifts/ swallows are in this area (Northcliff). I tried getting a picture of some, but they move too fast <!-- s:banghead: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/banghead.gif" alt=":banghead:" title="Frustration" /><!-- s:banghead: --> ! all I could make out was that they had orange undersides, and to my horror when I looked in my bird book, I found that most swifts do. can you please tell me what other swallows and swifts are in this area. <!-- s:scratchchin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/scratchchin.gif" alt=":scratchchin:" title="Perplexed" /><!-- s:scratchchin: -->

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3 years 2 months ago #86797 by gordon
gordon replied the topic: Re: Help identify bird in northcliff area
Quite a few swifts in that area... Alpine, Little, White-rumped, Horus, African-Palm, African-Black and maybe European.

The big flocks around the water tower used to be Little Swifts...

Look for the white rumps and shape of the birds to help you identify which one you are dealing with...

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Gordon

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3 years 2 months ago #86803 by billbrooks
billbrooks replied the topic: Re: Help identify bird in northcliff area
And swallows?

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3 years 2 months ago #86804 by gordon
gordon replied the topic: Re: Help identify bird in northcliff area
Yes and martins too... which bird books do you use?

Have a look at the range maps and if they are migrants and you should be able to get an idea of what to expect.

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Gordon

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3 years 2 months ago #86806 by John Young
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For those with orange on the, your likely candidates are Lesser and Greater striped Swallows, red-breasted Swallow, and to a lesser extent South African Cliff Swallow.

Have fun separating them.

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3 years 2 months ago #86808 by billbrooks
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I never new about the Martins! I guess the only way I'm going to find out what swallows and martins are in this area, is by persisting. Any more information from anyone on this site who is completely sure would be helpful. By the way, I use "the larger illustrated guide to birds of southern Africa" book. <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->

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3 years 2 months ago #86809 by billbrooks
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Also, thanks to Dave for helping me with my conundrum. :D

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3 years 2 months ago #86814 by gordon
gordon replied the topic: Re: Help identify bird in northcliff area
Excellent!

Take a look at wing shape to help split those swift off from martins and swallows. Swifts tend to have very curved sickle shaped wings that also tend to beat/flap a lot faster than swallows and martins.

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Gordon

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