Highlands Raptor

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8 years 7 months ago #11199 by Dewi Edwards
Dewi Edwards replied the topic: Re: Highlands Raptor
I sat up in bed reading up till late into the morning and came to the conclusion that the bird was a Cuckoo Hawk! The main reason I'd dismissed this species earlier was the impression given that the bird was too large for CH, so only looked up the larger candidates earlier.
(Anyone care to invent a scale rule to embed into the exif data!!!).

Rusty Justy,

I'd ruled out Honey Buzzard because of the Head shape, bill size and facial expression, but all this is subjective as the photo is not that clear, it's just the general impression you get from what you can see in the photo.

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8 years 7 months ago #11200 by gordon
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I hate to be the spanner in the works again.... but.... both juv and adult African Cuckoo Hawk will show several alternating bars across the tail. The only raptor that has two bars on the tail with the dark bar at the bottom and the "white" bar above is Western Banded Snake Eagle. In fact this feature is shown as diagnostic for this species.

If you look at the image that I lightened you can see the finer barring above the black terminal tail bar is actually part of the primary feathers, which are extending down covering a large part of the white bar on the tail. (Dewi, I presume this is the barring you are referring to?)

There is another point I want to make, the African Cuckoo Hawk seen in the last photo (yes, I do agree <!-- s:yes: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/yes.gif" alt=":yes:" title="Yes" /><!-- s:yes: --> with the ID on that one) is much more elongated and with a longer tail compared to the first bird...

I guess I am just going to have to disagree on this one... <!-- s:spin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/spin.gif" alt=":spin:" title="Spinning" /><!-- s:spin: -->

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8 years 7 months ago #11201 by JGB
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Gordon,

Did you get a whole tool box for Christmas with all your spanners???? <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: -->

Is the baring on the tail not perhaps a shadow?

Cheers,
An even more confused Justin

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8 years 7 months ago #11202 by gordon
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He he he he, I have been collecting spanners for years.... got whole rooms devoted to them.... the finest collection of spanners known to man... or woman... <!-- s:rotfl: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/rotfl.gif" alt=":rotfl:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:rotfl: -->

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8 years 7 months ago #11219 by arty
arty replied the topic: Re: Highlands Raptor
do you have a raw image of this pic,some interesting comments on this one,

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8 years 7 months ago #11221 by Doug
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If you are talking tail pattern, Sasol does not show it very well but Pale Race European Honey Buzzard and Western Banded Snake-eagle have very similar tail patterns. I do not have a book to check if Cuckoo Hawk has the broad subterminal band and then the broad paler section to the tail but I still feel this may be a pale race EHB.

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8 years 7 months ago #11226 by JGB
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Sorry my camera does not have a RAW option

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8 years 7 months ago #11227 by Dewi Edwards
Dewi Edwards replied the topic: Re: Highlands Raptor
Found this link which may be of interest.

http://www.ibercajalav.net/img/102_Hone ... ivorus.pdf

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Dewi.

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8 years 7 months ago #11230 by Doug
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Brilliant article and the more I look at that I am still convinced of EHB.

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8 years 7 months ago #11231 by arty
arty replied the topic: Re: Highlands Raptor
pity,however try this site <!-- w --> www.birdpics.co.za.they <!-- w --> have a large range of pics which might help you id this one.what is confusing me is the white leggings.i have seen a pic of a pale form walberg's but the legs are fearthed right to the bottom.only one i can find that is close is the black chested snake eagle.
western banded snake eagle is completely out of range.wrong shape for EHB.this is a real challenge and you might have to file in the unknown file.
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